On the third episode of The Constitutionalist, Shane Leary joins Dr. Benjamin Kleinerman to reflect on the 2nd RNC primary debate, the place of debates in American history, and what previous government roles provide the best experience for the presidency. The Constitutionalist is a podcast cohosted by Professor Benjamin Kleinerman, the RW Morrison Professor of Political Science at Baylor University and Founder and Editor of The Constitutionalist Blog, and his student, Shane Leary. Each week, they discuss political news in light of its constitutional implications, and explore a unique constitutional topic, ranging from the thoughts and experiences of America's founders and statesmen, historical episodes, and the broader philosophic ideas that influence the American experiment in government.